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Top official: statement stamps Dalai Lama a liar
10:46, December 18, 2009  

Zhu Weiqun, vice minister of the United Front Work Department (UFWD) of the CPC Central Committee. (China Tibet Information Center Photo)

In an exclusive interview with the China Tibet Information Center ( on December 17, Zhu Weiqun, vice minister of the United Front Work Department (UFWD) of the CPC Central Committee, said the recent statement of Lodi Gyari, special envoy of the Dalai Lama on December 12 just stamped Dalai Lama a liar. The whole interview as follows:

Reporter: When receiving our interview on December 8, you dismissed recent remarks by the Dalai Lama and claimed it was impossible for you to say something like “the Dalai Lama has stopped separatist activities.” That interview has drawn wide attention from home and abroad. According to reports of some foreign media, Lodi Gyari, special envoy of the Dalai Lama made a statement on December 10 to defend for Dalai Lama. What is your point?

Zhu Weiqun: I had made perfect sense on the sequence of events in last interview on December 8 and did not want to say more at first. But the statement of Mr.Lodi Gyari made me feel I have to say something for Mr. Gyari's endeavor.

In that statement, Mr.Lodi Gyari expressed "the timing and content of this interview are perplexing" in the first stance followed by a censure of "cautioning us from negotiating through the media" which indicated it was me brought things up. Evidently, Mr. Lodi Gyari "forgot" one thing- that interview started from a speech of Dalai Lama delivered during his visit to Sydney on December 2, in which he declared, during the fifth-round of talks in 2006, ‘officials from the UFWD had told his representative, Lodi Gyari, that they knew the Dalai Lama hadn't sought an independent Tibet.’ So, the discussion of Dalai Lama's lie was provoked by Dalai Lama himself. In Mr. Gyari's mind, Dalai Lama is entitled to start a rumor at will, while, other people have no right to clarify it. It is "perplexing".

Reporters: Mr. Gyari citied the Tibetan transcript from recording of the fifth-round of talks in his statement. Do you think this can provide grounds for the speech of Dalai Lama?

Zhu Weiqun: As of this point, I would prefer to refer to some sentences of the original recordings of the talks "Dalai Lama should make further re-examination of his basic political position and give a credible explanation to the central government. Mr. Lodi Gyari said Dalai Lama had reiterated his position of not seeking Tibet independence and resolving the problem on the basis of the Constitution of the People's Republic of China. What he said was good, but still far from enough. What's the meaning of it? That should be explicitly explained. Till now, Dalai Lama's explanations of 'middle way' are still "Five Point Peace Plan" and “Seven New Proposals” and in the beginning of this year, Samdong Rinpoche told overseas Tibetans "'Five Point Peace Plan' raised by his Holiness Dalai Lama in 1987 and the 'Seven New Proposals' put forward in Strasbourg in 1988 are our programmatic political guide." I summed up the meaning of 'Middle Way' from the "Five Point Peace Plan" and “Seven New Proposals” into five points. Firstly, sticking to Tibet is not a part of China, but an occupied country; Secondly, the existing social and political systems in Tibet shall be replaced with new ones according to Dalai Lama's idea; Thirdly, in fact, persisting on the never-existed and will-never-happen 'greater Tibetan areas' aims to expand future regional power in Tibet, the designed power of your side to Tibetan-inhabited areas in Sichuan, Qinghai, Gansu, Yunnan Provinces; Fourthly, demanding for the withdrawal of the military in "greater Tibet areas" and turn it into so-called 'international peace zone'; Fifthly, remove all the Han people out of the 'greater Tibetan areas'. These five points all oppose the Chinese constitution and the Law on Regional National Autonomy. So, it is not enough to say it is under the Constitution of the People's Republic of China and the basic issue is Dalai Lama shall thorough rethink the contents of 'middle way'. While in the statement,Mr. Lodi Gyari only picked a sentence: "It is a welcome news that (the Dalai Lama) is showing a gesture by saying that he wanted to resolve the problem on the basis of the Constitution of the People's Republic of China." Therefrom, we can make out: firstly, even from the Tibetan transcript of Mr. Gyari, we can not get my words "the Dalai Lama has stopped separatist activities" or words with that meaning. Secondly, I criticized 'middle way' for its five points against the Chinese constitution and the Law on Regional National Autonomy with long sentences after that and Mr. Gyari did not cite it purposely.

Therefore, the statement of Mr. Lodi Gyari can not clarify 'his holiness', contrarily, it stamps Dalai Lama a liar and our criticism is well-founded.

Reporter: I have taken note of in Mr. Gyari's statement that he hasn't mentioned the fact that you have face to face asked him for many times to clarify the facts.

Zhu Weiqun: Yes. I have mentioned in last interview: Shortly after the Dalai Lama invented a story about my words last April 12 in Seattle, I asked Mr. Gyari to get the facts clear in our two dialogues respectively in Shenzhen last May 4 and Beijing on July 2, 2008. Especially on July 2, I was really severe and declared to reserve the rights for refuting slanders. Mr. Gyari also said for many times that there were some misunderstandings for their report to the Dalai Lama and he would clear the air to the Dalai and "the Dalai Lama wouldn't say words like that in the future". But this time, in his statement, Mr. Gyari held his tongue about what I have taken up with him and he talked as if nothing had happened! What does this tell us?---This tells us that Mr. Gyari admits in silence that what Zhu Weiqun said is the truth!

But here comes another more serious problem: Whether Mr. Gyari has reported such important information to the Dalai Lama? After all, it is Mr. Gyari cutting off news to bring on Dalai Lama putting his foot in his mouth in public occasions or it is the Dalai Lama who obviously knew about the facts insisting bringing up a lie on purpose.

Reporter: The statement by Lodi Gyari also mentioned that they once "stated the willingness of H.H. the Dalai Lama to address all these concerns in a statement" and they also "presented a Memorandum on Genuine Autonomy for the Tibetan People", but outright rejected by the representative of the Central Government, is that true?

Zhu Weiqun: Mr. Gyari just tries to steer the topic and distract people's attention away from the embarrassing issue "whether the Dalai Lama lies or not". Since we are on the subject, I want to show clearly that what Mr. Gyari mentioned in these two sentences has somewhat reflected the true fact. The Chinese government's policy on the Dalai Lama is clear and consistent. And comparing with other people, Mr. Gyari is much clearer about the policy. If Mr. Gyari still wants to deceive the central government by those ideas such as "half-independence" or "covert independence", the result will be no different.

Source: China Tibet Information Center

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